Heraldry of the West of England

Wives of Framptons of Dorset

While looking for the origin of the arms described in the 1565 Visitation that Burke later called Frampton of Upwey I tried to identify the coats of arms that might have been inherited by the ladies listed in the Frampton pedigree.  To a large extent these prove to be speculative, as, although the fathers are usually named, it is not always possible to identify the father precisely or to determine exactly what his coat of arms might have been.  With reservations, though, it was possible to make reasonable guesses at the arms of most of the wives listed in the Frampton pedigree contained in Burke’s “Genealogical and Heraldic history ..” as far as the daughters-in-law of the John Frampton of Moreton four of whose sons provided the heirs of Moreton and Upway up to Burke’s time, and presumably beyond.

Not only the arms but also the identity of the first wife are speculative.  Walter of Buckland acquired Moreton in or before 1366 by marriage to Margaret.  Her maiden surname is not known for certain, but Burke was of the opinion that she was probably a daughter of the Hussey family “who were lords of this manor at a time immediately preceding the period at which it passed into the possession of the Family of Frampton.”

In the certain expectation of standing revealed as a hopeless ignoramus, I would offer the alternative possibility that Margaret might have been a Ledred.  This suggestion springs entirely from the quartered coat of arms described in the 1623 Visitation in which the second quarter is named for Ledred.

The coat is described as “argent a chevron between three talbots’ heads erased gules,” as shown at the top of this page.  It may be that a Miss Ledred became the wife of an ancestor of Walter, but she is not shown by name anywhere in the pedigree that we have.  There are a couple of men later in the pedigree whose wives are not named, but the position of the Ledred coat in the second rather than the third quarter suggests that it was inherited before either of those men married.

Assuming that Burke was correct in his opinion, which, gentle reader, you would be wise to assume, then Margaret might have inherited a variant of the arms of the Hussey clan who were widespread over Dorset.  The simplest version of these arms is described as “barry of six ermine and gules,” shown below.

In Moreton church, however, the arms shown for Hussey are “Or, a cross vert, a label gules.”

 

 

Walter’s son and heir John, a veteran of Agincourt, married first Isabel daughter of Robert Prowse.  There were several branches of the Prowse family in the West Country.  Most of them bore variants of three white lions rampant on a black field.  Isabel had one daughter who did not inherit Moreton.  John’s second wife, the mother of his heirs, was Edith Stawell daughter of Stawell of Catherstone (Cothelstone.)  Their arms are given in a visitation of Somerset as “gules, a cross lozengy argent,” shown below.

John’s eldest son Robert married first Alice, heiress of the Deverells of Combe Deverell and other manors.  Her children died young and did not inherit.  The Dorset Deverells appear to have used the arms “per pale azure and gules, two stirrups in pale or.”

 

Robert next married Alianor, heiress of William Browning.  Her arms at least, we can be reasonably sure of as they are one of the quarters described in 1623 – “Argent, three bars wavy azure.”

 

James, son and heir of Robert and Alianor married Anastasia, daughter of Sir John Newborough of Lulworth etc.  The arms of his family were “or, three bendlets azure, a bordure engrailed gules.”

 

After James, Moreton was inherited by his natural son, also James, who married Avyce de la Lynde daughter and co-heiress of Thomas de la Lynde whose arms were “gules, three stags’ heads couped argent.”  James died childless, so ending this branch.

The inheritance jumped to the descendants of the second son of John, the Agincourt warrior.  John’s second son was John, whose wife was not recorded in the pedigree.  He had a son John.

This John married Joanna, daughter and heiress of Edmund Marshall of Woodlands in Bramdean, Hampshire.  I cannot prove her coat of arms but, in the same county, other persons of the name Marshall bore “sable, three bars argent, a canton or” or variants of that coat.  The arms given in the 1565 Visitation for Frampton were “sable, three bars argent, three crescents or.”

   

 

To me, these coats are too close to be a coincidence, so I think it highly likely that Joanna’s arms were those described in the Visitation.  I conjecture that they were used by Joanna’s descendants until those descendants inherited Moreton from their cousins, and were then used again by the branch that settled at Upway.

John and Joanna had a son Robert whose marriage is not recorded in the pedigree.

Robert had two sons.  The elder, Edward, married a Miss Hunsell of Symondsbury.  I have not found a coat of arms for her family, but there have many Hunsells/Hounsells living in that area of Dorset for several centuries.  On the family website it states that they were originally “ship-builders, rope-makers and stonemasons,” so they may well not have been armigerous.

Presumably Edward was comfortably provided for, because when cousin James died in 1525 the Moreton inheritance passed to younger brother Roger.  Roger was married to Alice Trenchard.  No further details are given about Alice, but the Trenchards were widespread in Dorset.  Notably, Avice Frampton, wife of James above, remarried to Thomas Trenchard of Lytchett Matravers.  They had, amongst others, a daughter Alice who, according to the Visitation, married one Edward Lawrence.  It is not too fanciful to suggest that Edward Lawrence was Alice’s second husband and that she had first been married to Roger Frampton.  This would be an added reason why the Moreton estates passed to him on James’ death.  The arms of the Trenchards of Lytchett were “per pale argent and azure, in the first three palets sable.”

Roger died without issue, so Moreton passed to his nephew John, son of Roger’s older brother Edward.  John married Elizabeth, daughter of Nicholas Willoughby of Turners Puddle.  The visitation gives the arms of Willoughby of Turners Puddle as “Quarterly, 1 and 4, Sable, a cross engrailed Or within a bordure gobony Argent and Gules ; 2 and 3, Gules, a cross moline Argent within a bordure gobony Or and Sable”

John & Elizabeth had five sons, four of whom married.

The eldest Robert married Margery Paulett, daughter of  Thomas Paulett, son of William Paulett Marquess of Winchester.  It would appear to show the social mobility of the time that the grandson of a boat-builder, perhaps, could marry the grand-daughter of a marquess.  But Margery’s uncle John was married to another Elizabeth Willoughby, niece of Willoughby of Turners Puddle, so Robert and Margery were already cousins.

Second son, John, married Anne, daughter of Henry Willoughby of Upwey, probably more cousins.  From them descended the Framptons of Upwey.

Third son, William, married Elizabeth Broughton of Sampford Beckfield (Botfield.)  Her father bore for arms “sable, a chevron or between three stags’ heads cabossed argent.”

William inherited Moreton when Robert’s line failed.  In turn, his line failed and Moreton descended to the offspring of the fifth son James.

James married Katharine, daughter of John Trenchard of Warmwell, cousin to the Trenchards of Lytchett, so bearing similar, if not the same, arms.